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Anxiety Dreams
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Hymermut
2024-11-17 04:34:05 UTC
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Almost every night I get them. I am in sone kind of imagined situation
where I have to resolve a logistic, or logical problem, and I can't. It
sometimes repeats all night. Usually it's about my days as a low loader
driver, but not always.

In fact one recurring dream puts me on a long haul road across a road
building sitew here I run into soft ground and get stuck in the middle
of nowhere. But I recognise where I am and know that there is a farm
track leading to a a lane nearby, so by detaching the stuck trailer I am
able to drive down that track to get help. In the dream it is all very
familiar, but on wakening, I have never, ever been there in reality, and
it soon fades.

Then I awake and realise, with some relief, that the problem wasn't real.

I don't understand why this happens.

I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or
YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I
can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that
then turns into a problem.

Unless I am extremely tired, I can't recall a time when this anxiety
dream scenario didn't happen.

A couple or three large whiskies late at night seem to help. But that is
an expensive cure.

Any Sheddi have anything to offer in positive comments?

A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?

Tone
Peter
2024-11-17 10:21:46 UTC
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Post by Hymermut
Almost every night I get them. I am in sone kind of imagined situation
where I have to resolve a logistic, or logical problem, and I can't. It
sometimes repeats all night. Usually it's about my days as a low loader
driver, but not always.
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Post by Hymermut
Unless I am extremely tired, I can't recall a time when this anxiety
dream scenario didn't happen.
A couple or three large whiskies late at night seem to help. But that is
an expensive cure.
Any Sheddi have anything to offer in positive comments?
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
I'm no medic but I asked Copilot (which I find is usually but not always
helpful) and it spake thusly:
"
Anxiety dreams can be triggered by a variety of factors, often related to
stress and emotional experiences. Here are some common causes:

Stress: Daily stressors, whether from work, relationships, or
financial concerns, can lead to anxiety dreams.

Traumatic Events: Experiencing or witnessing trauma can cause intense
dreams as your mind tries to process what happened.

Life Changes: Major life transitions, such as moving, starting a new
job, or experiencing a loss, can create uncertainty and anxiety that
manifests in dreams.

Anxiety Disorders: People with anxiety disorders often report that
their anxiety spills over into their dreams, causing distressing nighttime
experiences.

Substance Use: Excessive use of drugs or alcohol can disrupt sleep
patterns and lead to anxiety dreams.

Anxiety dreams are your brain's way of processing emotions and experiences,
even while you sleep.
"

You mention again your use of whisky as a soporiphic, and that rings alarm
bells for me. 1 large whisky would make me feel unwell these days (I'm just
a little bit younger than you) and you have two or three. I would certainly
have bad dreams after taking that amount of whisky. As I recall, you take
it for pain relief, but really, alcohol is a very poor medication with many
side effects. I suggest you stay off it and have a serious chat with your
GP about alternatives.
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Peter
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Tim+
2024-11-17 11:07:44 UTC
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Post by Peter
Post by Hymermut
Almost every night I get them. I am in sone kind of imagined situation
where I have to resolve a logistic, or logical problem, and I can't. It
sometimes repeats all night. Usually it's about my days as a low loader
driver, but not always.
<Details snipped>
Post by Hymermut
Unless I am extremely tired, I can't recall a time when this anxiety
dream scenario didn't happen.
A couple or three large whiskies late at night seem to help. But that is
an expensive cure.
Any Sheddi have anything to offer in positive comments?
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
I'm no medic but I asked Copilot (which I find is usually but not always
"
Anxiety dreams can be triggered by a variety of factors, often related to
Stress: Daily stressors, whether from work, relationships, or
financial concerns, can lead to anxiety dreams.
Traumatic Events: Experiencing or witnessing trauma can cause intense
dreams as your mind tries to process what happened.
Life Changes: Major life transitions, such as moving, starting a new
job, or experiencing a loss, can create uncertainty and anxiety that
manifests in dreams.
Anxiety Disorders: People with anxiety disorders often report that
their anxiety spills over into their dreams, causing distressing nighttime
experiences.
Substance Use: Excessive use of drugs or alcohol can disrupt sleep
patterns and lead to anxiety dreams.
Anxiety dreams are your brain's way of processing emotions and experiences,
even while you sleep.
"
You mention again your use of whisky as a soporiphic, and that rings alarm
bells for me. 1 large whisky would make me feel unwell these days (I'm just
a little bit younger than you) and you have two or three. I would certainly
have bad dreams after taking that amount of whisky. As I recall, you take
it for pain relief, but really, alcohol is a very poor medication with many
side effects. I suggest you stay off it and have a serious chat with your
GP about alternatives.
AIUI Tone self medicates with whisky for pain management (having found the
alternatives worse).

Not so easy to just stop.

Tim
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h***@ccanoemail.com
2024-11-17 12:18:28 UTC
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Post by Hymermut
Almost every night I get them. I am in sone kind of imagined situation
where I have to resolve a logistic, or logical problem, and I can't. It
sometimes repeats all night. Usually it's about my days as a low loader
driver, but not always.
In fact one recurring dream puts me on a long haul road across a road
building sitew here I run into soft ground and get stuck in the middle
of nowhere. But I recognise where I am and know that there is a farm
track leading to a a lane nearby, so by detaching the stuck trailer I am
able to drive down that track to get help. In the dream it is all very
familiar, but on wakening, I have never, ever been there in reality, and
it soon fades.
Then I awake and realise, with some relief, that the problem wasn't real.
I don't understand why this happens.
I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or
YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I
can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that
then turns into a problem.
Unless I am extremely tired, I can't recall a time when this anxiety
dream scenario didn't happen.
A couple or three large whiskies late at night seem to help. But that is
an expensive cure.
Any Sheddi have anything to offer in positive comments?
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
Tone
I've no personal experience with CBD but some folks tout it :

https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel

When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
John T.
John Williamson
2024-11-17 12:43:34 UTC
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https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
A fairly recent neighbour had a permit from her doctor to allow her to
buy hers from her local pharmacy. She wasn't fit enough to work, but
seemed to be functioning normally. Then again it *was* pure CBD, and
it's the THC in the street version that has the mood altering side effects.
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h***@ccanoemail.com
2024-11-17 13:39:14 UTC
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:43:34 +0000, John Williamson
Post by John Williamson
Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
A fairly recent neighbour had a permit from her doctor to allow her to
buy hers from her local pharmacy. She wasn't fit enough to work, but
seemed to be functioning normally. Then again it *was* pure CBD, and
it's the THC in the street version that has the mood altering side effects.
Yep.
I'd hope that the pharmacy versions would be free of THC.
In the early days the Health Food Store versions were tested
and contained trace amounts of THC and quite varying amounts of CBD.
Buyer beware.

Here's just a couple of links on CBD :

https://www.webmd.com/cannabinoids/cbd-depression-anxiety

https://www.simcoerehab.ca/2023/04/14/pros-and-cons-of-cbd-oil-for-anxiety/

John T.
Hymermut
2024-11-17 12:45:33 UTC
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On 17/11/2024 12:18, ***@ccanoemail.com wrote:
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Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
Post by Hymermut
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
Tone
https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
John T.
Taint cheap but it's cheaper than whisky! I'll give it a whirl and
report back.

Tone
Julian Macassey
2024-11-18 14:42:47 UTC
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Post by Hymermut
s?
Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
Post by Hymermut
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
Taint cheap but it's cheaper than whisky! I'll give it a whirl and
report back.
Weed is not nearly as toxic as booze. AFAIK weed does not
have an LD-50.
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Tim+
2024-11-18 16:21:14 UTC
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Post by Julian Macassey
Post by Hymermut
s?
Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
Post by Hymermut
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
Taint cheap but it's cheaper than whisky! I'll give it a whirl and
report back.
Weed is not nearly as toxic as booze. AFAIK weed does not
have an LD-50.
Deep ends. Safe as you’re not worried by the chance of developing a
psychosis or chronic hyperemesis.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21665-cannabis-hyperemesis-syndrome

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2424288/#:~:text=There%20is%20now%20reasonable%20evidence,characteristics%20and%20other%20drug%20use.

Now the risks probably aren’t high and God nose, alcohol doesn’t have a
clean bill of health so you pays yer money and takes yer chances…

Tim
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Richard Robinson
2024-11-19 11:39:24 UTC
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Post by Julian Macassey
Post by Hymermut
s?
Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
Post by Hymermut
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
Taint cheap but it's cheaper than whisky! I'll give it a whirl and
report back.
Weed is not nearly as toxic as booze. AFAIK weed does not
have an LD-50.
Manymany years ago, I did hear of a research effort that managed to kill
a rat with cannabis. I think the result was that to do the same thing for
a human, you'd need to inject about a kilo ...
--
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Julian Macassey
2024-11-19 14:41:10 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:39:24 -0000 (UTC), Richard Robinson
Post by Richard Robinson
Post by Julian Macassey
Post by Hymermut
s?
Post by h***@ccanoemail.com
Post by Hymermut
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
https://cbdforlife.us/blogs/news/how-does-cbd-oil-make-you-feel
When your doctors Tsk Tsk and warn you about the possible
side-effects - you ask them if the 3 large whisky are a better
idea ..
Good Luck with whatever works.
Taint cheap but it's cheaper than whisky! I'll give it a whirl and
report back.
Weed is not nearly as toxic as booze. AFAIK weed does not
have an LD-50.
Manymany years ago, I did hear of a research effort that managed to kill
a rat with cannabis. I think the result was that to do the same thing for
a human, you'd need to inject about a kilo ...
All my I have been hearing tales about the horrors of
marijuana/Canabis/Indian hemp. What I haven't seen is any death
and disease caused by canabis.

Interestingly the two biggest killer drugs alchohol and
tobacco are perfectly legal and available at every corner shop.

Finally: "there are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in
the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and
entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from
marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual
relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." Harry
Anslinger the first Drug Czar

Give more marijuana to white women I say.
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fight for it. - Aneurin Bevan
Mike Fleming
2024-11-17 14:17:26 UTC
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Post by Hymermut
Any Sheddi have anything to offer in positive comments?
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
It might be worth trying St John's Wort, as long as it doesn't conflict
with any medication you're currently taking. Available at Boots, Holland
& Barrett, and probably any number of others.
Tease'n'Seize
2024-11-17 19:23:25 UTC
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Post by Hymermut
I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or
YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I
can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that
then turns into a problem.
I find it easier to drop-off when listening to something, rather than
watching something, my dreams are usually completely gone by the time my
eyelids open ...
Jim The Geordie
2024-11-17 19:41:31 UTC
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Hymermut wrote:> I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or > YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I > can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that > then turns into a problem.I find it easier to drop-off when listening to something, rather than watching something, my dreams are usually completely gone by the time my eyelids open ...
Brian Cox and David Attenborough do it for me.
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Mike Fleming
2024-11-19 12:00:30 UTC
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Post by Jim The Geordie
Hymermut wrote:> I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or > YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I > can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that > then turns into a problem.I find it easier to drop-off when listening to something, rather than watching something, my dreams are usually completely gone by the time my eyelids open ...
Brian Cox and David Attenborough do it for me.
I find most Formula 1 races work for me.
Nicholas D. Richards
2024-11-19 15:06:20 UTC
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Post by Jim The Geordie
Hymermut wrote:> I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on
iPlayer or > YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to
bed I > can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that >
then turns into a problem.I find it easier to drop-off when listening to
something, rather than watching something, my dreams are usually completely gone
by the time my eyelids open ...
Post by Jim The Geordie
Brian Cox and David Attenborough do it for me.
As long as they keep away from global catastrophe forecasts they wake me
up.
I find most Formula 1 races work for me.
Lineker does it for me, I even remember to switch off the TV.
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Peter
2024-11-19 15:30:26 UTC
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Post by Mike Fleming
Post by Jim The Geordie
Hymermut wrote:> I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on
Brian Cox and David Attenborough do it for me.
I find most Formula 1 races work for me.
Lineker does it for me, I even remember to switch off the TV.
Just sitting in my armchair does it for me, these days. I was close to
nodding off in the dentist's chair this morning but someone kept poking
sharp things into my mouth and waking me up.
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Mike Fleming
2024-11-20 01:00:53 UTC
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Post by Peter
Just sitting in my armchair does it for me, these days. I was close to
nodding off in the dentist's chair this morning but someone kept poking
sharp things into my mouth and waking me up.
Some time ago I had to have a root canal on an upper rear molar which
also had a cap on it. I was in the chair for about an hour and a half
with a device stuffed into my mouth to keep it open which gave me some
idea of how a sex doll must feel. I nearly dozed off after an hour or so.
Nicholas D. Richards
2024-11-17 22:56:44 UTC
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Post by Tease'n'Seize
Post by Hymermut
I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or
YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I
can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that
then turns into a problem.
I find it easier to drop-off when listening to something, rather than
watching something,
For the last 50+ years I have fallen asleep attempting to read a book.
As a child I used to read a book, in bed, under the covers with the aid
of a torch, usually without falling asleep.

I have all 75 Maigret novels, which I read and re-read, in rotation. As
I fall asleep very quickly it takes me some time before I start again.
Post by Tease'n'Seize
my dreams are usually completely gone by the time my
eyelids open ...
I am human, so they tell me that I must dream.
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Sam Plusnet
2024-11-18 00:50:26 UTC
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Post by Hymermut
Almost every night I get them. I am in sone kind of imagined situation
where I have to resolve a logistic, or logical problem, and I can't. It
sometimes repeats all night. Usually it's about my days as a low loader
driver, but not always.
In fact one recurring dream puts me on a long haul road across a road
building sitew here I run into soft ground and get stuck in the middle
of nowhere. But I recognise where I am and know that there is a farm
track leading to a a lane nearby, so by detaching the stuck trailer I am
able to drive down that track to get help. In the dream it is all very
familiar, but on wakening, I have never, ever been there in reality, and
it soon fades.
Then I awake and realise, with some relief, that the problem wasn't real.
I don't understand why this happens.
I often fall asleep in my armchair watching something on iPlayer or
YouTube. (Don't have a telly.) And then I find that when I go to bed I
can't sleep unless I am 'watching' some 'video dream' in my mind that
then turns into a problem.
Unless I am extremely tired, I can't recall a time when this anxiety
dream scenario didn't happen.
A couple or three large whiskies late at night seem to help. But that is
an expensive cure.
Any Sheddi have anything to offer in positive comments?
A cheaper alternative to the whisky, maybe?
I watch some YewTube in the evenings, but I always read for a while
before settling down to sleep. Maybe that shift from the visual to
print can help calm the subconscious[1]?

[1] Probably best to not go in for all the blood & guts fiction (I hope
it's all fiction) for this purpose.
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Sam Plusnet
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